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TELECOM Digest     Thu, 4 Jan 96 01:02:00 EST    Volume 16 : Issue 5

Inside This Issue:                        Editor: Patrick A. Townson

    NPA Question (Thaddeus Cox)
    Questions On Installing One's Own VoiceMail System (James Trammell)
    Online List of Area Codes (Francois-Michel Lang)
    Called 911 After Deer Hit Car (Carl Moore)
    Small BBS / Host System Wanted (Matt Falenski)
    Source Wanted For Satellite Mobile Phone ([e-mail])
    Learning About Corporate Telecom Buying? (Daniel Wynalda)
    800 Number Abuse Question (Allen Kass)
    Phone Hacking (Ryan Gingras)
    [NetWatch]: Regulating I-Phone (Monty Solomon)
    Re: Anyone Know Who Unibridge is? (Stu Jeffery)
    ARMIS and Tariff Info on Disk or CD-ROM (Robert P. Daniels)
    Area Code Pointer (Alan Pugh)
    Live Voice Over Internet Using Touch-Tone Telephone (Michael Snider)
    Cellular Phone Compatibility - US/Korea (Daniel E. Jones)
    GSM Data Transmission - PCMCIA card (Lars Kalsen)
    Search For Any Radio-Link, Digital Microwawe Software! ([e-mail])
    Help Wanted, Custom Controls, Wireless Net Drivers, Beta Test (M. Grogan)
    Shame Telstra Shame (Arthur Marsh)
    Re: New Phone System Getting Installed ([e-mail])
    Seeking Centrex ISDN ISP in Redwood City (H.J. Lu)
    Re: France Telecom Offers Voice Mail For Publiphones (Richard F. Masoner)
    Re: Standardization of Voicmail, Fax (Robert Virzi)
    Re: Absolutely Amazing Free Catalog (The Old Bear)

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Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 12:35:40 PST
From: Thaddeus Cox <[e-mail]>
Subject: NPA Question


A simple question that I have been curious about for a long time: why
did small states such as Iowa and Nebraska, who undoubtedly had a
pretty small population in 1947 and still do today, get assigned
multiple area codes?  Does it have to do with the state having
multiple non-Bell LECs, as postulated by a friend?


Thaddeus Cox - [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (James Trammell)
Subject: Questions On Installing One's Own VoiceMail System
Date: 3 Jan 1996 17:20:48 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept.


I want to put a voice mail system in my home.  All I really need is a
number of touch-tone selectable boxes, say four, and the ability to
receive faxes as well.  I want someone to be able to call the number
and hear the following:


(ring)

Hello.  If you are sending a fax, you may start transmission now.
        For ABC Services, press 1  (caller can now leave a message)
        For DEF Inc., press 2      (same as above)
        For XYZ Corp., press 3     (same as above)
        For anything else, press 0 (same as above)

 ... and so on.

Does any software/hardware system exist to accomplish this task?  Can
a PC-compatible or Macintosh be fitted with a hw/sw subsystem allowing
it to function in this manner?


Thank you,

James Trammell
[e-mail]


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: A rather good product I sometimes use
here for this is called 'Big Mouth'. It has been around a few years,
but seems to be a dandy little voicemail system for low volume use.  PAT]

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From: [e-mail] (Francois-Michel Lang)
Subject: Online List of Area Codes
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Organization: Fannie Mae
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 20:36:21 GMT


I have a somewhat outdated online list of area codes that looks
like this (in part):

011 [ International Access Code ]
201 Morristown, and Newark, (Northeast) New Jersey
202 Washington, District of Columbia
203 All parts of Connecticut
204 All parts of Manitoba, CANADA
205 All parts of Alabama
206 Seattle, Tacoma, and Vancouver, (Western) Washington
207 All parts of Maine
208 All parts of Idaho
209 Fresno and Stockton, (Central) California

Unfortunately, this list is out of date, and doesn't include any of
the area codes added in the past two years or so.

There didn't seem to be anything of interest in the FAQ.  If anyone
has a more current list of area codes (in any form), I'd be happy to
see one.


Thanks!

Francois-Michel Lang          [phone]   FAX: [phone]
[e-mail] ............. Fannie Mae ---- Portfolio Management
[e-mail] ..... Dept of Comp & Info Science, U of PA


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Watch this space! We will have one very
soon now. Yes, I know I said that last week also. The areacode portion
of the Telecom Archives is going to be greatly updated and I expect
Carl Moore will have this available soon. He was out of town over the
holidays, and we are lucky he made it back alive, as he will relate in
the next message.   PAT]

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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 96 17:05:12 EST
From: Carl Moore <[e-mail]>
Subject: Called 911 After Deer Hit Car


I had to get admitted to someone's home in Michigan to call police
after a deer hit the left front fender of the car I was driving.  And
guess what -- I was advised to call 911.  So I did, and a sheriff's
deputy came to investigate.

The deer was almost hit by the car behind me after hitting the car I
was driving.  No driver lost control, and no people were injured, but
the deer ended up dead at the foot of a driveway off to the left.  I
was left with a rounded dent in the fender, a dangling left side
marker (which no longer worked), a cracked headlight case with a
broken low beam, and a piece of fur stuck in the fender.


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Fortunatly you got out of it alive and
unharmed. Welcome back to the daily routine and 1996.   PAT]

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From: [e-mail] (Matt Falenski)
Subject: Small BBS / Host System Wanted
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 21:31:38 GMT
Organization: Classic Industries, Inc.


Hi! I was wondering if anyone here could help me out. What I'm trying
to find is some sort of a BBS program.  It will be used by about ten
users total, and should be more of a file-based board.  Everything I'm
finding is like Renegade, and I dont need anything that fancy, or
neat, just something with basic functionality.  If you have, or know
of something that is small, easy to use, and sort of user friendly, I
would appreciate any help!


Thanks!


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: A product which is several years old
but does quite well for the purpose you describe is called 'Procomm'.
It is also known as 'PC Plus'. It is a nice little terminal/commun-
ications package with a host mode which can serve as a small BBS.
The version I have is several years old, but I understand they have
revised and improved the software recently.    PAT]

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From: [e-mail] (Kkush95403)
Subject: Source Wanted For Satellite Mobile Phone
Date: 3 Jan 1996 23:45:31 GMT
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)
Reply-To: [e-mail] (Kkush95403)


Magnvox has been providing the hardware and service for a satellite
based mobile phone service. I understand that there are several new
providers with less expensive equipment (2 to 3 K) instead of 40 K and
at a rate of $1.50 per minute.  Does anyone know who this is and where
I may obtain more information?


Thank you,

Ken
Empire Communications Inc.
[e-mail]  707 545 8300

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From: Daniel Wynalda <[e-mail]>
Subject: Learning About Corporate Telecom Buying?
Date: Thu, 04 Jan 1996 00:36:02 GMT
Organization: Consultants Connection BBS


I've been a long time reader of the TELECOM Digest / on and off.  I
know alot about the normal topics of this group regarding COCOT's,
carriers, tariffs, etc.  Recently our family business has expanded to
the point that I have 17+ lines and buy various data services.  In
this process, and in connecting to the internet I've begun to hear
many new terms.  While I know what a T1 is and how it works, I'm
curious as to if there is a location one might look/read to learn
about various telecommunication packaging schemes.

For example:

Since I have 17 phone lines, is there a way I can buy a T1 or something
similar that would combine my lines and use the extra bandwidth for
data to an alternate carrier?   I am lucky enough to live in one of
the local areas with competitive phone service.  I don't know that
I really am looking to save money -- but it would be nice to get upgraded
internet service via this bandwidth if it could be used.

Any pointers are appreciated.


Daniel Wynalda/N8KUD/SYSOP |Consultants Connection BBS | 616-363-6680
[e-mail]  |2783 Sandalwood Ct NE      | Grand Rapids, MI 49505

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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 12:52:04 -0500
From: Allen Kass <[e-mail]>
Subject: 800 Number Abuse Question


Pat,

I am trying to find out more about the 800 number abuse I have read
about. We have a situation where an incoming 800 caller can gain
access to our PBX and then turn the call around and go out on one of
our outgoing trunks. We were called by AT&T's fraud division yesterday
saying that there was an unusually high number of international calls
originating from our outbound trunk group. Later we got a call from
Cable & Wireless's fraud division saying that they were tracking an
unusually high number of calls to one of our 800 numbers from a pay
phone in Los Angeles, CA.

My question is this: Can a DID call to an extension in our building
be turned around inside the switch without our knowledge or
assistance? We have an AT&T PBX. Any information would be helpful in
understanding this situation and may help us establish a more secure
system. As it stands at this point we might be responsible for approx-
imatly 3000 minutes of fraudulent international and 800 calls.


Thanks,

Allen


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: This indeed is possible depending on
the type of system you have. I recommend you get some security/fraud
experts on this immediatly. Many PBX's have a DISA port. This is a
thing where a caller from outside dials into your system, and gets
a new dial tone. Believe it or not, some companies do not even know
that this exists on their PBX; they were never told about it when
the PBX was installed, or if they were, they never were told how to
change the default password and the importance of doing so. Other
times, the security problem comes from a bug in the voicemail system
which allows an incoming caller to 'transfer to another extension'
and the caller instead presses '9' and transfers to an outside line.
You must make certain your voicemail does not allow access to any
outside lines or tie-lines if it has the ability to transfer calls
to other extensions.  Scandalous but true: When AT&T was marketing
the Dimension PBX back in the middle 1970's, the local telcos (at
least Illinois Bell) were installing it for customers without even
telling them a DISA port was on the switch. Well believe me you,
the phreaks all knew about it, as well as the default factory
passcode which never got changed since no one knew it was there.
Here in Chicago, the Chicago and Northwestern Railroad got hit for
many thousands in fraud via the DISA, as did Montgomery Ward at
their corporate headquarters. With both of them, it was just a
local seven digit number which returned dial tone to anyone who
called into it. Entering the default passcode followed by a '9'
was all it took. Now in the case of General Motors, they also
had massive fraud via DISA about the same time, but they had
very 'generously' linked incoming 800 numbers to theirs for the
benefit of employees traveling on business, etc. so of course
their fraud was ten times worse than that of Wards or the
railroad. In the case of General Motors, the fraud was so severe
that they considered it a good investment of their time to take
three or four clerical employees off their regular duties and
assign them full time to investigating and tracking the fraud for
close to a year. And they called *every single number* they could
find to question the people who answered.

Perhaps some readers here with very good expertise in this will
write to you with specific suggestions if you want their help. But
by all means admins, get your boards under control before hackers
and phreaks eat you alive ... and they will if they find you are
exposed and unprotected.    PAT]

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From: [e-mail] (Ryan Gingras)
Subject: Phone Hacking
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 11:59:41 GMT
Organization: MTS Internet
Reply-To: [e-mail]


In a normal telephone line what do each of the four wires do
specifically? Which ones are the "In" and which ones are the "Out".


Ryan Gingras   E-Mail: [e-mail]


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: They are all in and out. We don't
think of them in that way. Electrical current travels through the
line and your telephone is in series with it. The wiring is
usually done like this:

The red and green wires are usually line 1. On a modular plug they
will usually be the two innermost pins, i.e. pins 3 and 4. These two
are all you need for a single line phone.

The yellow and black wires are line 2 if you have a two line phone.
If you have a one line phone of the old fashioned 'Princess' style
with a light in the dial powered from a separate transformer then
the yellow and black are the power supply for the lamp. Modern 'light
in dial' phones use little LED's which are powered from the phone
line itself.  These two wires (yellow/black/line 2) are located on
a modular plug as pins 2 and 5.

Now you'll note from what I said above that leaves pins 1 and 6 still
to be described. Well, if you look closely, chances are you will find
just an empty little slot with no metal connector there on either end
of the modular plug, and in the wall box you'll likely find just four
little metal contacts sticking out. But on closer examination you
will see there is room for a couple more down there also, one on either
end. These would be (are) pins 1 and 6, and they are associated with
the blue and white wires which you probably don't have in your phone
either, unless it is a two or three line phone.

Red/green pair one is always used for the phone line. What happens
with yellow/black pair two and white/blue pair three depends on the
type of phone and the application. Occassionally on old two-line
mechanical hold turn-button style phones, the blue/white served as
an intercom signalling pair. Occassionally on single line phones where
the user wanted absolute privacy, the yellow/black served the 'exclusion
switch'; that is, the central office line was brought in first to
that particular phone on red/green, sent through a switch on the phone
which either passed or cut off service to other phones on the premises
'downline', and then back out on yellow/black to the main terminal
box where other extensions on the line got their feed provided the
master phone on the front end allowed the connection past that point.

For your purposes, I suspect red/green is all you need to bother with.
Actually it does not matter; the phone does not know the difference;
you can use the yellow/black or some other spare wire you have around
there as long as you remain *consistent*. The current flows 'in'
through one of the wires and 'out' through the other to use your term,
and the switchhook on the phone either allows the current to flow
unhindered through the 'loop' and back to the phone company or it
diverts the current through the innards of the phone causing a change
in what the central office 'sees' on your line. If you find that
after hooking it up you are unable to make the touch tone buttons
sound, then you have the 'in' and 'out' in your perspective reversed
and you should swap them with each other at one end of the line or
the other. You also need to make certain that not so much as a tiny
strand of wire touches or comes in contact with one of the others.  PAT]

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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 02:02:17 -0500
From: Monty Solomon <[e-mail]>
Subject: [NetWatch]: Regulating I-Phone
Reply-To: [e-mail]


Forwarded to the Digest FYI:

Begin forwarded message:

Date: Tue, 02 Jan 96 16:09:18 EST
From: "paige albiniak" <[e-mail]>
To: [e-mail]
Subject: [NetWatch]: Regulating I-Phone


Has anyone read Brock Meeks article in the Dec. 18 issue of
{Interactive Week} about the FCC imposing a levy on ISPs? The money
would be used to finance universal telephone and accompanying services
for everyone using a telecommunications network. The levy is
specifically aimed at making sure people continue to pay for phone
services.

Check out the article in hard copy or on Interactive Week's web site at
http://www.zdnet.com/~intweek (if it is still there). I think it will get
people's attention on this list.

I would like to do a story on this as well (which is hard considering the
government is shut down) and would really like to get everyone's feedback.


Paige Albiniak,  Editor
Voice Technology & Services News

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Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 15:53:18 -0900
From: [e-mail] (Stu Jeffery)
Subject: Re: Anyone Know Who Unibridge is?


In TELECOM Digest V15 #534, Steve Samler <[e-mail]> writes:

> I understand that they are associated with PCS.  A marketing group of
> some sort that is charged with promoting PCS.  Anyone have an address
> or a phone?

UNIBRIDGE was formed by a group of LECs to promote the use of their
infrastructure and services to support PCS operators, especially the
"entrepreneur" bidders (The first of the two Entrepreneur's Auction's
started just before Christmas and will resume January 5). UNIBRIDGE is
simply a clearing house for the information provided by the member
companies. It is intended to make it easier to get information out to
the PCS industry.

Faith Muri-Brown is the UNIBRIDGE Coordinator. Her office is in Arlington
VA at 703-974-4579.

The UNIBRIDGE concept is for the PCS operator to lower his capital
cost by leasing services and infrastructure from the LEC in his
operating area. The offering is access to the LEC switch via "Generic
C", which is an interface defined by Bellcore to support WACS, the
Bellcore Wireless Local Loop technology. So far, WACS (also known as
PACS) has not been widely adopted, but Generic C is being expanded to
support CDMA (IS-95) and maybe others.

In addition to access to the switch, the UNIBRIDGE concept includes other
services from the LEC, such as lease of cell sites, back haul, billing
services, etc.

The prime customer for UNIBRIDGE are the smaller entrepreneur who are
bidding for PCS licenses. There are currently 254 operators bidding in
Band C, for the 484 (approximatly) licenses.

The UNIBRIDGE members are (or at least were a few months ago) the "Baby
Bells", less BellSouth and Southwestern Bell but including GTE. Each LEC
has its own offerings and sales staff.


Regards,

Stu Jeffery           Internet: [e-mail]
1072 Seena Ave.                voice:   415-966-8199
Los Altos, CA. 94024           fax:     [phone]

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: ARMIS and Tariff Info on Disk or CD-ROM
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 17:21:52 GMT
Organization: The Internet Access Company


Is anyone aware of companies which compile tariff filings or ARMIS
data in electronic format?  I've heard a tariff CD-ROM exists but I
don't know who manufactures it.  Having ARMIS reports in electronic
format since I often have to compile data on a holding company level
while ARMIS are often filed by state.

Please let me know via e-mail.


Robert Daniels

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Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 15:22:00 EST
From: Alan Pugh <[e-mail]>
Subject: Area Code Pointer


Could you (or someone else) please post a pointer to a web or ftp site
that lists all current U.S. area codes and the states they are in?

I've found a couple of sites that let you make queries of an area code
for a given city, but nothing that just lists them all.


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Well, you and a couple dozen other
people have asked me this in recent weeks. I know this is starting
to sound like a promotional advertisement, but *watch this space real
soon*. There will be a completely up to date list and an executable
script you can run on your own computer. When Carl Moore gets it
to me it is going to go out as a special mailing ASAP.    PAT]

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From: [e-mail] (Michael Snider)
Subject: Live Voice Over Internet Using Touch-Tone Telephone
Organization: Internet Direct, Canada
Date: 03 Jan 96 22:44:28 GMT


I know there are many products that allow live voice communication over
the Internet. But these use soundboards with microphones. I am looking
for a product that uses a touch-tone telephone as the input/output
device, yet the voice is transmitted over the Internet.

I would like to use a DSP board such as a Dialogic board with a telephone
attached to it. As you speak into the telephone, I need a product that
will take the voice and transmit it over the network (the Internet) to a
server housing a similar DSP board which will play the voice back to
another caller using a telephone.

Does such a product exist? Thanks in advance for any advice.

Either respond to this newsgroup or E-Mail me at [e-mail].

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From: [e-mail] (Daniel E Jones)
Subject: Cellular Phone Compatibility - US/Korea
Date: 4 Jan 1996 02:54:27 GMT
Organization: MITRE Corporation, McLean VA


I will be transferring to my company office in Seoul, Korea in the
near future, and was wondering if a cell phone purchased in the U.S.
would work over there.  Obviously I would have to sign up for the
service with the local Korean carrier.  The real question (I think) is
whether their system uses the same frequencies, protocols, etc.

If anyone knows, please email me at [e-mail].


TIA,

Dan Jones

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From: [e-mail] (Lars Kalsen)
Subject: GSM Data Transmission - PCMCIA Card
Date: 3 Jan 1996 12:45:31 GMT
Organization: Customer at DKnet


Hi, and happy new year,

I am trying to set some mobile datatransmission via the GSM mobile
telephone network. It is working -- but not optimal.

I am using af PCMCIA card NOKIA. Normally you send an initialization
string for a modem - but what do I send for this PCMCIA-card.

If you have any ideas, suggestions or experiences please E-mail.


Greetings from Denmark,

Lars Kalsen

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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Search For Any Radio-Link, Digital Microwawe Software!
Date: 3 Jan 1996 14:52:11 GMT
Reply-To: [e-mail]


I am very interested in any microwawe digital radio-link calculation
program, both a professional and share-ware type.

Any WEB site, or any FTP site, for search information about digital
and analogic Radio-link, and radio-Hop calculation?

Any information about this would be appreciated!


Thanks in advance.

Vicente Sanchez. EB4BSQ.
AKA [e-mail]
SysOp de MERCURIO BBS.

MERCURIO BBS- 24H @ 33K6 -HAM&COMMS
Data [phone]  - Fax [phone]

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From: [e-mail] (Marty Grogan)
Subject: Help Wanted, Custom Controls, Wireless Net Drivers, Beta Test
Date: 3 Jan 1996 17:57:17 GMT
Organization: One World Telecommunications


To the modem community:

I have been trying to locate comm drivers specifically designed to
solve the problems unique to wireless network modems.  Having been
unsuccessful, I am resigned to developing them.

If you have any such drivers, know of any such drivers or would like
to beta test such drivers, please let me know by email.

I will try to address any and all glitches that I know about as well
as any that I learn of from you.

I expect to offer a systems solution that will achieve nearly
theoretical levels of reliability.

Please send me any "horror stories" about difficulties with such
networks.  I will need to know about your system configuration
and performance requirements, also.

In return for your assistance, I will provide you with copies of all
software developed and offer whatever advice that may assist with your
own situation.


Marty Grogan
[e-mail]
[phone]

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Subject: Shame Telstra Shame
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 15:44:03 CST
From: Arthur Marsh <[e-mail]>


A previous article under this thread in the TELECOM Digest reported
concern by hobbyist bulletin board operators at a Basic Carriage
Service Tariff filing by Telstra that would result in existing
hobbyist bulletin board telephone lines being charged at the Business
Service tariff.

This would have resulted in an annual line rental of A$274.80 compared
to A$139.80 for Non-Business Service.

Telstra filed a new tariff proposal, filing number 462 on 21 December
1995, which was not disallowed by AUSTEL on 29 December 1995.

The definition of a "Business Customer" in the new Public Switched
Telephone Service (PSTS) Tariff section 4.2.2 includes:

"(f) a customer that provides information services and operates for a
commercial purpose."

The phrase "and operates for a commercial purpose" was added in this
tariff ammendment and appears underlined in it.

AUSTEL will be writing back to people who complained about the
previous classification to inform them of the new definition.


Arthur Marsh, telephone [phone], fax [phone]
              [e-mail]

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From: ROCKET <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: New Phone System Getting Installed
Date: Wed, 3 Jan 96 11:01:54 -0500
Organization: Delphi ([e-mail] email, 800-695-4005 voice)


I have been impressed with Siemens/ROLM telecommunications products
over the few years. I have been in the telecom business for about ten
years and have worked with all the major players in the PBX arena. I
have several ROLM PBX's installed and they are all very reliable and
offer excellent CTI integration. Good Luck!

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From: [e-mail] (H J Lu)
Subject: Seeking Centrex ISDN ISP in Redwood City
Date: 3 Jan 1996 09:42:39 -0800
Organization: Zoom.Com Information Services Inc.


We are looking for an ISP with Centrex ISDN in Redwood City. The area
code is 415. But I have no idea what NXX it will be. BTW, does anyone
know how many COs Redwood City is served by and what the NXXs are?

Please email me at [e-mail].


Thanks,

H.J.

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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 13:49:35 -0600
From: [e-mail] (Richard F. Masoner)
Subject: Re: France Telecom Offers Voice Mail For Publiphones


Jean-Bernard Condat wrote:

> Paris (France), January 2th, 1996--France telecom have announce the
> creation of a very interesting and usefull service: a voice mail for
> publiphone users.  If your correspondant is busy, if you are unable to
> wait for somebody on the phone you can leave a 30-seconds voice
> mail. The message will be automatically transmit to the called number
> at the hour given by the caller.

I've used the MCI version of this service a couple of times in the
several years or so it's been available here in the USA.  What
generally happens, though, is the recipient first hears the
computerized "This is MCI with an important message from Ri...."  and
they hang up, thinking it's a sales solicitation.  :-(


Richard Masoner

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From: [e-mail] (Robert Virzi)
Subject: Re: Standardization of Voicmail, Fax
Date: 3 Jan 1996 20:15:45 GMT
Organization: GTE Laboratories, Waltham, MA


In article <[e-mail]>, Tom Crofford
<[e-mail]> wrote:

> Does anyone out there know of any sort of standardization for
> voicemail/auto attendant systems?

I don't know the current status, but there is/was a standard in the
works for voice mail.  It was started, if memory serves me correctly,
by the voice mail user interface forum.  The effort was then trans-
mogrified into an ISO effort.

The latest report I have is called,"User interface to telephone-based
services: Voice messaging applications."  It is clearly marked as a
draft international standard, so you'll want to get an updated version.
(Mine is dated 93-11-05.  So is that Nov-93 or May-93?)  The alphabet
soup on the cover says the source is: ISO/IEC JTC1/SC18/WG9/SWG IV.  I
can only generate about half those acronyms.  Good luck tracking this
down.


Bob Virzi    [e-mail]
Just another ascii character...
[phone]

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From: [e-mail] (The Old Bear)
Subject: Re: Absolutely Amazing Free Catalog
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 23:02:20 EDT


Pat:

He has a web site at: http://www.sandman.com for those who want
intant gratification and can't wait to see the catalog!  :)


Cheers,

Will   The Old Bear


[TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: We're talking of course about Mike
Sandman, who bills himself as "Chicago's Telecom Expert" and the
marvelous catalog he sends out on request or gives to people who
visit his shop at 804 Nerge Road in Roselle, Illinois 60172. His
current sixty page catalog is really incredible, and full of all
sorts of very interesting telecom stuff. To get a copy, you can
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